Thinking Fellows interview: Eternal Subordination of the Son controversy

This week the Thinking Fellows are joined by Elyse Fitzpatrick and her son Joel Fitzpatrick to talk about a controversy revolving around the idea of the eternal subordination of the Son. The Fellows aren’t here to join the fight but instead talk about the misapplication of the Trinity happening within the controversy. Sit back, relax, and grab a drink as the Fellows cover this special listener requested show.

Crossway Reverses Decision to Make ESV Bible Text Permanent


September 28, 2016

Crossway Reverses Decision to Make ESV Bible Text Permanent

Amid much public debate, publisher says strategy for a ‘stable’ Bible was a ‘mistake.’

Crossway Reverses Decision to Make ESV Bible Text Permanent

The publisher of the English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible has reversed its controversial decision to finalize the text after tweaking 29 verses.

“We have become convinced that this decision was a mistake,” stated Crossway president and CEO Lane Dennis in an announcement released today. “We apologize for this and for any concern this has caused for readers of the ESV, and we want to explain what we now believe to be the way forward. Our desire, above all, is to do what is right before the Lord.”

“Good for the ESV,” tweeted Scot McKnight, who had criticized the decision to make the text permanent.

Jonathan Leeman: Parsing Words and Deleting Comments (Guest Post by Todd Wilhelm) — [This is about my ex-church Grace Bible Fellowship of Silicon Valley]

Why are comments disappearing under posts on the 9Marks website?

via Jonathan Leeman: Parsing Words and Deleting Comments (Guest Post by Todd Wilhelm) —


9/26/16. Note: This is about my former church Grace Bible Fellowship of Silicon Valley and the authoritarian 9 Marks practices that they follow.  I wrote a 1-star review on Amazon about Mark Dever’s 9 Marks of a Healthy Church and described the implementation of the recommended practices as being “like the Salem Witch Trials”. I stand by every word.  Jonthan Leeman at 9 Marks wrote an article about my 1-star Amazon review. More than 30 comments were made to the article, logical and critical of the 9 Marks system overall. Todd Wilhlem, in United Arab Emirates (an American who works/lives there and had dealings with an abusive 9 Marks church as well) wrote about the article. 9 Marks subsequently scrubbed the internet of all comments which a webmaster had to retrieve. Todd Wilhelm’s latest article is about the scrubbing of the internet by 9 Marks and of comments. There is no adult discourse, or so it seems, with 9 Marks. If their ideas will “float” (i.e. are viable) why do they shut down critiques?  – Velour/MtnShepherdess

Only the weak are cruel

From Suzanne Pardue via Twitter on 9/26/16

Only the weak are cruel. Gentleness can only be expected from the strong… – Leo F. Buscaglia”



Changing My Mind on Women in Ministry, Part 1 – Missio Alliance

It’s Not Easy to Change When those of us on the Missio Alliance writing team were given this month’s topic—Gender and the Kingdom of God—I knew that it would be a difficult topic for me to write about. Truth be told, it has been an extremely difficult topic for me to write about. Yes, I’m … Continued

Source: Changing My Mind on Women in Ministry, Part 1 – Missio Alliance

Never Go to a Meeting When the Purpose is Unknown to You

A Cry For Justice

I have learned (the hard way) that one of the ways the wicked work their evil against the righteous is by setting a trap or snare. Jesus said, “beware of men.” And so we must.

A typical way that the wicked set their traps is to ask their victim to –

  • come to the office to talk
  • let’s just sit down and talk
  • I need to talk to you very badly
  • No, no, no. We don’t need anyone else to come. Just come yourself so we can talk

In each one of these cases if you ask the person what the subject of the meeting or “talk” is, they will refuse to provide it or will evade answering. DO NOT GO to such a meeting. Do not have a phone call with such a person. Even if, and especially if, they are quoting Bible verses to you about brothers forgiving…

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